Wednesday, February 17, 2016

Flashlight Scam: Shadowhawk X800 And Others

As blogs and flashlight communities call this scam out by name, it just mutates like a virus. This same flashlight sells under at least a dozen different internet domains where each one makes nearly identical, ridiculous claims.

I have talked extensively about this scam as the Lightstrike 360, G700 and X800 already here.

All I have to do to find variations of this ad is to review the ads that Google has picked out for my own blog. If I didn't check for new variations, my own blog would be serving up these ads, tricking people into paying $75 for a flashlight you can order straight from China for about $3 to $8.

What I'm noticing about these variations are that they seem to be widening their focus on the UK and Australia.

The claims are almost identical, with only slight variations, about "amazing military technology" "finally available to public" that's "bright enough to blind a bear" and "used by Navy SEALs" and other tripe.

Below I see a new ad domain when I use the ad review tool Google gives me. I noticed most of the ads for this domain were text ads.



The problem for the scammers is that even though they change the names of the domains they serve this thing up from, they still have all this stock where they paid a Chinese manufacturer to brand these with G700 and X800.

So, even though it might be called "Tactical X800" or "Military X800" or "Shadowhawk X800" or whatever it's called, it will always be a variation on one of those few model numbers.

The biggest problems right now for consumers are a) the "sock puppet" reviews acting like this cheap Chinese flashlight lives up to its ridiculous claims and b) the fact that all these ads mutate and spinoff into endless domain names that all appear to the ad networks to be completely new ads. Notice how some of the photos change slightly to confuse Google's analytics.

Below is another whole set of new ads from yet another new domain.

"Controversial Military Flashlight Now Available To The Public"

...and I have a very expensive bridge to sell you...

Also notice they took the product name off the ads themselves, making it harder to search to see if it's a scam without clicking through.


This new variation below seems aimed at Australia. Also notice it's an Adsense ad which points directly to a blog, which is unusual. It doesn't look to me at least to be a legitimate blog. And why would a legitimate blog spam the Internet with the strikingly similar ads using the exact same photos as other variations of the scam? Congrats, Australia, you've been targeted as being gullible.


The blog article from the above ad shows "Amazing New Military Flashlights in Australia: Our Top 4" and shows a photo of several fairly well respected flashlights. My guess is that they lifted images from legitimate reviews on  the BLF of CPF flashlight communities. Go to one of those communities and ask them about these ads!

Anyway, the "review" mentions 4 and shows 4 in the top photo, but if you scroll down, you see that a 5th flashlight ... you guessed it ... the X800 has "won" the review as the best flashlight. It looks like they almost took a real review and just added their own at the end. I read a thread on BLF where someone was mad these guys "borrowed" their photos.

Note that the "blog" portion of the site only has two articles, and also notice that it has a small store where you can buy the well respected flashlights shown in their photo. That's hedging your bets! Though I'm sure Fenix or Zebralight aren't going to give them quite the markup that putting a $6 flashlight into that lineup. I originally paid $100 for my Sunwayman V11R which is shown in their photo, which I reviewed almost 4 years ago! So let's just say that selling you a $6 flashlight for $5 is a nice little score for them, provided you fall for the "amazing military" part.

Update: The scammers behind Shadowhawk have been exposed and now I know who they are and other scams they've done.

Update 8/26/2016: Shadowhawk is now using geo-location to tell people the police in their particular city are urging people to buy their product.


155 comments:

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    1. I've seen lots of "scam warnings" for the 800x model Shadowhawk (after I ordered one on 3/2/16) Most say they called the company and couldn't get through.

      I haven't had that problem. Each time I call I get through. Am I being conned? Should I cancel the order?

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    2. Dude, you just saved me a whole heap of money, thank you so much.

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    3. Dude, you just saved me a whole heap of money, thank you so much.

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    4. Just had email didn't open but header was, shadow hawk can see through steel doors, going to buy two one 4 me other for my dead superhero uncle, we will be unstoppable hahaha. Yea right..

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    5. I was scammed. Shipped with defective battery or charger. 1st customer service rep offered to replace (no charge) After month I call to investigate and am informed that they could not ship as I did not pay for the battery. I am baffled. I insisted to be transferred to supervisor who would not give me his name and would not replace the battery/charger. I just wasted $$$ DO NO BUY FROM THIS COMPANY!!!!!

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    6. There appears to be a new one out calling its self T2000 Tactical Flashlight. Pretty much the same description as the rest. I suppose it's just as bogus. Do you know of any that work?

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    7. Thanks for your diligence in exposing this Mark. Although I've bought several LED type flashlights over the past 5 years I'm glad that I've never fallen for the hype of 'all new technology' crap by over paying for any of them.

      The most expensive flashlight that I've bought ($35) was my NEBO Redline Select nearly 5 years ago, rated @ 310 lumens on 100% power it seems to live up to this claim; this light also features focus ability & the typical five mode functions. It takes 3/1.5v AAA batteries, I use Energizer rechargeable batteries for longer life and a definitely brighter beam. NO, I'm not a Nebo troll, and I'm sure that this flashlight will be available for under $10 elsewhere even now, but when I bought this one the technology (features & price) hadn't trickled down as it has now.

      The Nebo is still my favorite of the 6 LED flashlights, and the only one I paid top dollar for, I use it for camping trips only, but also always carry along a cheaper spare or two as well. My el cheapo flashlights include 2 authentic UltraFire lights & 3 knock off UltraFire lights, none have failed in any of their uses & if lit up side by side the knock offs seem to equal the real UltraFire light outputs, and perhaps the only difference being the quality of the cheaper knockoff 3.7v li-ion rechargeable batteries that never live up to their claim of 4000 mAh etc.

      Anyway, enough said, it's good to know that the 800 series lights are just a bunch of cheap milled out units soon to be available in the $8~10 range, it does have some nice features like my Nebo does but my UltraFires do not.......

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    8. TOTAL B.S. Advertising....my 5 (made in China knock off) flashlights arrived yesterday 7 November 2016. I placed my order 14 September 2016. These 800 lumen lights are not as bright as my 300 lumen flashlight. They throw a pitiful square beam of light. The only thing made in the USA was the cardboard box. Should run for President.

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    9. Well I did fall for it. Figured they would make good items for bug out, backpacking, gifts for the family etc. I got the buy three get two free. Then I contacted the company and asked if they misrepresented this product after seeing posts on other message boards that these lights will not cook eggs and start paper on fire like the ad said on FBI. The company told me they had received other calls about this matter, and offered me a full refund or a 50% discount on my order. I went with the discount and hopefully won't be too disappointed.

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  2. You continue to do a service to the community for your reviews and I hope the wider public see your exposé of this flashlight scam. You saved me wasting my money.

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    1. The ad I read say's $29.95 but open the link and you have to buy 3 to get it for $29.95 apiece.I called and complained and as a special for me my price is $29.95 for one. After endless emails telling me the demand is so high there is a delay in shipping. Told them cancel my order. Called my C/C company and was told by them this is not the first complaint regarding Shadowhawk. They issued me a credit.

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  3. So wats a great flashlight for the price?

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    1. Look for something from one of the bigger brands like Fenix, Nitecore, Thrunite, Lumintop, etc.

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  4. As always: Caveat Emptor! The Internet delivers anything to buy to your screen...fortunately folks like Mark are here to debunk the many product mysteries, claims and schemes! Thanks Mr. WIng!

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    1. You are very welcome, and thanks for the kind words!

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  5. I am glad i found your article, for me i don't like to be scammed, thanks and really appreciate your help. I am still wondering why yahoo keep this ad?

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    1. The answer is they don't care. Even a small blogger like me with no resources can screen every ad to see what the advertisers are trying to show on my site. I can block any ad I don't want on my site. Yahoo can too, if they wanted.

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  6. I actually saw one of those "contriversial military flashlight" ads on pandora and went to see what the good people of the internet said about it, which ended with me reading this story, good investigation job. Thank you sir.

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  7. Thank you for the great information but I purchased the G700 around xmas from a company in Missouri with the 75% off so I paid about 59.00. Today I received the X800 ad in my email. I have to say I am really impressed with the flashlight! It will light great distances and has a straight stream that is directly on point. Sorry I paid that much but that is a super nice light and very bright.

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    1. but were you able to light paper on fire
      im really goona ask for a full refund what a good light to look into getting

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  8. Want one without all the SOLD OUT BS delay. Go to Wal-Mart and buy it for a substantialy reduced price.

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  9. I already sent them money for 2 lights on February 4 but still haven't seen the lights on my doorstep. Bummer. They say they're overloaded with orders. Hopefully I can get my Credit Union to stop payment on my debit card.
    Thanks for the info.

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    1. They are all over Ebay for under 14 dollars.

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  10. Most of the time they just steal your money and they don't even send a cheap flashlight.

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  11. I ordered the X800 only to find out AFTER I called Customer Service that it was on backorder. They offered me a free extra battery for the wait. A few more weeks went by and no flashlight. I called again and this time they refunded me $11 to make up for the wait and said I would have in 7 to 10 days and of course this did not happen. I also during this time received not one but two extra bateries of different sizes. Really? I finally had to demand a full refund. I wonder if the flashlight even exists !

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    1. They do exist...ordered mine on 2-7-16 received it 4-6-16......wat a disappointment...... Looks cool and lightweight but that's as far as it goes....I have a streamlight 350 luumens that puts this thing to shame.....if I turn on both lights in total darkness and lay them next to each other you can almost see the X800 tear up....my X800 is also using the lithium battery .....either this light is junk or I managed to get a big fat sore lemon....jus sayin

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    2. I ordered my x800 and received it within two weeks. No problems or issues whatsoever. Not a scam
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    3. I ordered and paid $56 for a militac G700.have not received it.reading the reviews now realise they are a total con.must try for a refund.but where?

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    4. I ordered and paid $56 for a militac G700.have not received it.reading the reviews now realise they are a total con.must try for a refund.but where?

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  12. I got a flash light from a army surplus store here in Australia that's a tactical light that sits on top of a rifle. It's just as bright as what these guys make out to be. You plug it into a power point or into your car. And it last up to 8 hours on full. I've used it to go spot lighting hunting its that bright.

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    1. Yeah, because spotlight hunting is so challenging, haha. Let's go blind the animals before we kill em so they can't see and run away. It's illegal here in the US for a reason..

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  13. Thanks for the blog on these torches. I will not go near them now. I currently use a LED Lenser torch and It is great, So I will just buy more of them instead

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  14. I was about to buy one of these when I stumbled on your site. Glad I did too, these adds should be banned, but as long as there's so much cash to be made from selling these shoddy products at over inflated prices,this trade looks set to continue. I was about to be charged £49:95, for 1, but if I wanted 5, it's only £29:95, wow bargain, huh ? Nahhhhhhhhhhh, think I'll pass ! Keep up the good fight Mark. Cheers

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  15. Thanks for the info, saved me time and money. Fell for the bull**** and was about to buy one.

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  16. Thanks. I was researching because my too-good-to-be-true alarms were going off.

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  17. For good Flashlight should consider LED Lenser.

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  18. I felt a bit suspicious, but was actually almost going to buy the torch. Came out of the advert, and looked up the name on Google, and found your information. Many thanks Mark Wing, for spending time to alert other people. Saved me money, and probably a huge waste of time trying to deal with them.

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  19. The Shadowhawk 800 is virtually identical to the Meco XM-L T6, for sale at $7 or £5 (put it into Google). This is a reasonable flashlight, value at £5 with shipping, but at £50, it would be a complete rip-off! The Shadowhawk may well not be as good as the Meco! Zoomable flashlights are only really good on wide beam. In contrast, if anyone is looking for a brilliant budget flashlight, there are several genuine options. Check out the reviews and Youtube videos of the Convoy c8, or the Thorfire c8 at 900 lumens. Both have a good throw (long distance hot spot) with a reasonable spread. The Convoy s2+ at around 1000 lumens has a very strong beam with more flood (spread). These are very bright, with excellent build quality and available for around $15 -$18 or £10-£12. They all use the 18650 rechargeable battery. I bought a Thorfire with a battery and charger for £18. In addition, from a reputable retailer, the flashlight not only turned up but has a 2 year warranty.
    Thank you, Mark Wing, we all owe you a debt of gratitude for this posting.

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  20. thx mark, glad you got all this info out there for us to see :-)

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  21. Mark, what I don't see is an actual review of the product. Did you ever get your hands on one of these flashlights (x800, etc...)and test it out or are you simply calling bullshit on the product due to the flawed advertising? I'm looking for an honest review, not a warning. I swear I'm not trying to be a dink, I really am interested in how these flashlights perform.

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    1. Do your research and you will see that they are selling you a 6 dollar flashlight for the amazing price of 75 dollars. There's no way myself or any reputable reviewer is going to pay that to review one. But by all means buy one and find out for yourself :)

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  22. Thank you for this. I'm in Australia and have started noticing these ads popping up.

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  23. I ordered a x800 it took over three weeks to arrive, only to find its broken!!
    What a disappointment and a scam especially since I've now read this.

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  24. I ordered a x800 it took over three weeks to arrive, only to find its broken!!
    What a disappointment and a scam especially since I've now read this.

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  25. I ordered two of those flashlights and it took months to receive them. The company gave me a discount for my wait and asked if I wanted to cancel. I thought that they made a good faith effort to make it up to me, so I kept my order. The two flashlights arrived yesterday and neither one of them work.

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  28. Thanks for that information Mark, I ordered one as you suggested from China for less than $6.00 including shipping on Ebay through PayPal. Either way I won't loose anything, it looks like a great flashlight to have for outdoor use.

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  29. Shadowhawk immediately deducted $ from my account but didn't send 5 flashlights. Called bank and it's not such an easy process getting $ back. Just as pissed at bank as I am the scam artists. Also Shadowhawk gave a bogus shipping tracking number. First online buy I've been scammed

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  30. I am trying to find out how long the battery will last between charges. Will I get 4 hours of use out of regular aaa batteries? I cant find this spec anywhere???

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  31. I am trying to find out how long the battery will last between charges. Will I get 4 hours of use out of regular aaa batteries? I cant find this spec anywhere???

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    1. 3aaa lasts about 8min on bright

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    2. 3aaa lasts about 8min on bright

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    3. https://youtu.be/-JVqRy0sWWY scam they stole this video off of you tube i reported them to fbi yesterday and wouldn't you know it that video disappeared they only have one video and it was made uesterday hmmmmmmm

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  32. I ordered 3. after numerous emails got a 50% credit as they said that they had already been shipped. received a card today from Royal Mail to say a parcel waiting for me from USA with £64 to pay in customs charges. I will not be paying or accepting the goods. Complete scam - be warned. I ordered from a UK site with no postage - obviously a complete fraud!!! Now unable to contact company for a reply......

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  33. Can some one tell me where I can buy the same flash light from China for $3 and something?If it is the X800 how can be made in the us if the same light is $3 plus dollars from china?

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  34. Almost got me, but my intuition kicked in and I backed out. I found you guys, grateful for that. You saved me a hassle and my money..... thanks.

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  35. Great info thank you very much. I figured as much and now i have confirmation.

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  36. THIS IS A SCAM!!!!!
    I PLACED THE ORDER FROM A FACEBOOK AD AND GOT CHARGED $56 FOR A SINGLE FLASHLIGHT. ON CHECKING OUT THEY GAVE AN ADD ON OPTION OF ADDING A BATTERY PAK, I CLICKED ON IT TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND IT PROCESSED THAT ORDER. NEXT THING I FIND OUT IS THAT I GOT CHARGED $99 ON THE CREDIT CARD JUST FOR THE BATTERY PACK. CALLED THEM BACK AND THREATENED TO REPORT THEM TO BBB AND THEY CANCELLED THE ORDER. DO NOT ORDER ANYTHING ON THIER SITE COMPLETE SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!! A RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  37. I bought 5 of the Shadowhawk flashlights with the lithium batteries for them. Got them in about 2 weeks all work great still works great. I gave 3 away as gifts they all working great. Not sure who you all got yours from. 100% legit from the company itself..

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  38. I purchased two of these Shadowhawk Tactical X800 torches in England, and had them delivered from a Post Office Box in Milton Keynes, and not from a formal business address as one might expect. They arrived in two cheap plastic boxes that should have had four catches attached to each, both were missing a catch which was not in the packaging, so were already damaged prior to dispatch.

    Normally most quality items would include some Instructions on Use or a Welcome/Thank You for your purchase note included, there is nothing, not even a Warranty or Guarantee. So no method at all of returning the items if they are faulty. American goods always have Made in USA and some sort of logo etched into their products, these torches have no markings on them what-so-ever.

    The manufacturing standards of construction are not what you would expect from an expensive, high end product such as an Led Lenser or Maglight. The provided battery holder for the three AAA batteries rattles in the tube when fitted and the orange waterproof rubber seal on the end cap is not a good fit, also the end cap switch itself is a cheap, poor quality item. Compared to my Led Lenser V2 and Maglight, which are not only made to high tolerances but are also etched and individually Serial Numbered.

    The X800 is provided with a rechargeable battery holder, but with no information or suggestion as to which battery to use and no electrical information at all on the charger itself. It looks as though it is an American style plug which would obviously be 110 volt, but I purchased this in UK which is 230 volt. This is potentially dangerous, as unless it is a universal voltage charger (and there is no information on this) this could possibly over heat and catch fire. So this does not comply with any USA, UK, Europe or normal World Wide practice.

    There is no way this item would ever be purchased by any Military or Police Force as there is no electrical compliance information and so could never be part of any official purchasing mechanism.

    I sent an email to the Contact Us address and got no reply. I also tried phoning the published American phone number without success.

    This is not an American manufactured item. This is a cheap Chinese product marketed to appear as though it is made in America. If you read the various reviews, they have all been written in the same style and have huge chunks of repeated words and phrases suggesting that they have all been generated from the same source and flooded onto the internet. This identical item is also sold as the CVLIFE 1200LM Cree XML T6 and as the HIILIGHT LED FLASHLIGHT TORCH 2000 CREE XM-L T6 (alarm bells ringing). Also the Shadowhawk store address is 7875 Highlands Village Place, San Diago….this is the address of the UPS Postal store in San Diago!

    NOW…having said all that the torch is extremely powerful. It is far brighter than my Led Lenser V2 and my Led Lenser SEO 3 head torch. Why not just put Made in China on the torch. Provide a decent hard plastic box. Put the necessary electrical information on the charger and include some well written instruction in English (not translated directly from Chinese, which although entertaining is usually totally useless).

    By slightly improving manufacturing standards and conforming to normal sales/marketing practice this could be a really impressive item and better than some of the current market leaders; and thereby compete in the market in your own right rather than hiding behind the thinly veiled curtain of an American product.

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  39. Thanks for the heads up buddy.Just cancelled my order.

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  40. Thanks! My Dad (ex-military) forwarded an email to me selling these. I clicked on the link, curious about price, & noticed that the ACTUAL PRICE was NEVER STATED (super shady!!). I Googled it & found your post. +100Karma for exposing them :)

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  41. stavo per comprarle insieme ai miei colleghi.. per fortuna che ci siete voi. grazie

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  42. RIP OFF SCAM ARTISTS THAT DESERVE TO BE CURSED !!!
    THE TORCH I RECEIVED IS NOT WHAT THEY ADVERTISE !! ITS A TORCH NOT A FLASHLIGHT,
    I PUT 2 BRAND NEW HIGH QUALITY BATTERIES IN WHEN I RECEIVED IT AND COULD STARE INTO THE LIGHT FOR A FULL 10 SECONDS WITHOUT ANY SIDE AFFECTS. I TRIED EMAILING AND CALLING THEM FOR A REFUND IF I RETURN THE TORCH, BUT TO NO AVAIL.
    IF I COULD, I WOULD CAUSE THE PERSON WHO PROCESSED MY ORDER AND SENT ME THIS JUNK SOME SERIUOS PHYSICAL PAIN

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  43. My wife bought one of these X800 tincans about two months ago, it lasted exactly one hour of playing with it to find out all it's capabilities. Three AAA batteries died in that hour, put new batteries in, no light. Bought off ebay for the full $56. Seller agreed to make refund but never sent return label. A complaint to Ebay ended up somehow with seller banned. Ebay returned her money, we still have non-working flashlight. Today I tried to figure out why it won't work, appears LED module is faulty, switch checks OK. It made acceptable light when it worked though, just not $56 worth of light. My old 5 D-cell Maglight is about twice as bright, just not as clear.
    Doing some looking on my own they are now selling for as low as $12 on Ebay. If they last longer than my wife's did they 'MIGHT' be worth that much.

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  44. They are a 100% fraudulent Sellar,the picture of them setting paper on fire with their lights it's not their shadowhawk it a custom made light made by Adventure sports flashlights, an xpe bulb the brightest build ever made?More bdc it's an outdated emitter that no self respecting ligjt manufacturer would use its incapable of putting out more than 350 lumens max look up flashlight Wikipedia under led emitter bin the new l2 emitters are much better than xhp 35,xhp 50 and xhp 7p capable of up ro 5000 lumens those light is a 6 .00 chinese light please go to budgetlight forum and search this light and for what they are asking you can buy real qaulity lights capable of over 3000 lumens this sellae is actually worse than monster flashlights. Com

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  45. They are a 100% fraudulent Sellar,the picture of them setting paper on fire with their lights it's not their shadowhawk it a custom made light made by Adventure sports flashlights, an xpe bulb the brightest build ever made?More bdc it's an outdated emitter that no self respecting ligjt manufacturer would use its incapable of putting out more than 350 lumens max look up flashlight Wikipedia under led emitter bin the new l2 emitters are much better than xhp 35,xhp 50 and xhp 7p capable of up ro 5000 lumens those light is a 6 .00 chinese light please go to budgetlight forum and search this light and for what they are asking you can buy real qaulity lights capable of over 3000 lumens this sellae is actually worse than monster flashlights. Com

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  46. I bow must say Thanks. I live in the Smoky Mountains in Western North Carolina. The ads make it sound like the greatest thing since sliced bread. I found your blog and have read. I will stick with my 30y/o 3 D Cell Mag Light.

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  47. Glad to hear that unknown, please go to budgetlight light forum ,for what that shadowhawk is going for you can ask forum members s what you can buy in your budget that best meets your needs for an awesome lught that will last for years to come

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  48. a warning
    Just received an email "75% off today only – Light Strike 360 LED goes through steel door!" deleted it, but curiosity made me google the catch phrase: The top site that came up was:

    "LightStrike 360 Tactical Flashlight Review - Lame or Legit?
    www.infinitepowersolutions.com › Electronics › Tactical Flashlights"
    Malwarebytes blocked it as "Malicious site"
    It seems a lot is getting through Google's screening.

    the second was this site which gave me the information I wanted about this scam. Thank you for the effort you put into helping others.

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  49. Just adding to the above -I use Kapersky which adds a link to an asesment of Google search links: in this case it was:
    "No information on website safety (according to Kaspersky Lab reputation service)"
    I trust Malwarebytes.

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  50. Glad to hear that unknown, please go to budgetlight light forum ,for what that shadowhawk is going for you can ask forum members s what you can buy in your budget that best meets your needs for an awesome lught that will last for years to come

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  51. I just see in tv the atomic beam flashlight for 19.99 but is the same of ShadowHawk .

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  52. Thanks for your help,time,and effort. Your research helped save me a lot of money and aggravation. God Bless You.

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  53. The issue for the scammers is that despite the fact that they change the names of the areas they serve this thing up from, regardless they have this stock where they paid a Chinese producer to mark these with G700 and X800.

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  54. You know i have been going om their site and they contradict themselves because they its an xre ckass of light bulb then under light features it say its a t-6 emitter so which is it and then when i try to go back to my previous page it wont let me its like it stays stuck on their order page. AM i the only ine whos noticed this?

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  55. A family member ordered this for me since I got my Fenix 1000 lumen stolen and yes this shadow hawk is crap. It states in the guide to not charge too long or it will overheat. I don't even know how to hook up the battery to the charger that doesn't even state where to put +/-. Go with Fenix or even surefire and spend a few extra bucks and you will be proud to show off the light. FYI even the strap is too small to go around my hand to put around my wrist and the case it came in already cracked after 5 times of opening. Yea you could drive a truck over it but you will want to after seeing how crappy it is.

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  56. So is there a real shadowhawk x800? Or is the x800 a scam all together? I see people seeing them on ebay for $12 and one guy is selling one for $52. Is that the real one the $52?

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    1. The scam is selling you a $6 flashlight for $56 or $75 by convincing people it's super secret military technology. I'm sure they make a nice profit at $12 too for the people they can't fool.

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  57. Hi Mark, thanks for your research, saved a lot of people a lot of grief. My question is now, where can I find a genuine flashlight that is military grade or whatever. What price should I expect to pay? Can I find it at a bargain?

    Thanks

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    1. I would say Amazon, eBay or maybe Rakuten. Any big Internet store. I wouldn't go to the brick and mortar stores like Walmart because they cut deals for cheap crap.

      I would look at offerings from Nitecore, Fenix and Olight for tactical flashlights. Lots of military folks like Surefire but I think it's a little overpriced.

      Good hunting!

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    2. Yes, thanks for the warning. I had a feeling it was too good to be true, but was taken in by all the ads. Like the guy from Rocky Mountains said, they made it sound like the greatest thing since sliced bread. the thing that was holding be back was having to fork out so much for a flash light. Also I had been looking for a bright long range flash light for some time, and I guess I wanted this to be the real deal. Thanks again.

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  58. Thanks for your article, very helpful! :-)
    Check this order page out...it originally advertised as a "supported" entry in my Facebook newsfeed:
    Now being called
    "TruTorch Tactical Flashlight".
    https://trutorchflashlight.com/trutorch/m1/us/order.php

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  59. I bought the same flash light off Amazon for 10$ and wouldn't pay a penny more.Yes bright for about 5 minutes but cheaply made. Can only find the Chinese batteries online as they are very strange size.

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  60. A total scam. I purchased one at top dollars. After one test use, the switch just went inside every time. I tried everything and when I tried to contact them, it was the hardest thing ever. They told me that the warranty was for 30 days only, etc, etc. Eventually, they sent me a replacement switch. In the mean time, I purchased the same thing for $12 and is better built.That switch will never come out in this one. Spread the word and stop this scam!

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  61. the ad for the x800 was on my weather app on my phone, I think Im going to contact my server and ask sprint WHAT THE HELL !!!!!

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  62. Trutorch is advertising on Facebook. What do you think about this product?

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  63. I (tried) to order one of the x800 flashlights. As I went through the process, it seemed to indicate that I would be offered to order 5 at a lower price. Further along, (after putting in my CC number and address etc.), it indicated that I could order a lithium battery and charger for about $50.00, otherwise in small type, it stated you will need 3 AAA batteries which only last about three hours! At that point I decided against ordering. As I closed out from the website, it said "Thank You For Your Order" at the price for 5. I immediately sent an email to them to cancel the order and received a reply back almost immediately saying "Your order has already shipped and there is nothing we can do to stop it". I called my CC bank, but at that point they had not charged my card so the bank could do nothing. I called the Shadowhawk company and a guy named Tony said he would cancel the order. About two weeks later, a box arrived with 5 flashlights in it. No charge to my CC. I emailed them as such saying send me a shipping label for any charges and I would return them. No response & no shipping label. What the heck is wrong with this company????

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    1. Probably because the cost of return shipping would cost more than they pay for the items? And more likely the problem for the supplier would mean producing an actual real return address, thus giving away who & where they actually are, and thats something they really don't want even the cheapest and nastiest of spotlights on?

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  64. Wow count your luck stars they are so unorganized ,theire teps have no clue of what thwy are selling or have any real i sight to tbeir product,iam hlad you wete able to cancel and get money refunded, you please take this as you want to the op who started this thread is also a memeber of BUDGET FLASHLIGHTS FORUMS send him one and have hi do a in depthe review of the livht and it will be posted on thd world wide web so peoe can see what a piece of junk it really is ,it would ne nice if you did that

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  65. Wow count your luck stars they are so unorganized ,theire teps have no clue of what thwy are selling or have any real i sight to tbeir product,iam hlad you wete able to cancel and get money refunded, you please take this as you want to the op who started this thread is also a memeber of BUDGET FLASHLIGHTS FORUMS send him one and have hi do a in depthe review of the livht and it will be posted on thd world wide web so peoe can see what a piece of junk it really is ,it would ne nice if you did that

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  66. Mark, you're a fucking idiot. I bought one, and love it. Go blow your self piece of shit loser.

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    1. Wow that's a lot of anger from such a happy customer!

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    2. I'd be careful slinging the word idiot around considering you wasted 75 bucks on a dollar store flashlight. You must be experiencing buyer's remorse but are too emotionally stunted to accept you are a moron who bought a dollar store flashlight for 75 dollars, and instead, in a classic case of shooting the messenger, took it out on Marky Mark. Nice.

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  67. DEAR ANONYMOUS,if it as good as you say wpuld you consider sending your shadow hawk to budgetlight forum so they can do some technical tests and see what it rates spec wise and do you have anyother lighys line nutcores ,fenixs,olight,jetbeam to compare it to?

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  68. DEAR ANONYMOUS,if it as good as you say wpuld you consider sending your shadow hawk to budgetlight forum so they can do some technical tests and see what it rates spec wise and do you have anyother lighys line nutcores ,fenixs,olight,jetbeam to compare it to?

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  69. Hey Mark, I want to let you know that these idiots are STILL scamming today, one of their ads slip through my AdBlock and I just facepalmed when I immediately looked at the lightsaber as their choice of picture. It goes to show that they'll do anything to take advantage of the stupidity in the public.

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    1. Yeah. The term "bottom feeders" doesn't do them justice.

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  70. Is the "Trutorch M800" advertised on FB a scam too?

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    1. I just got sucked in too. I ordered 1 sale price torch at $28 then checked my credit card to find that I'd been charged the $28 plus and additional $197. Phoned them up and they said they'd shipped what I ordered: 5 torches plus 2 batteries to which I said total BS. They then backtracked and said that if I ship back 4 of the torches, I could keep the 5th and the batteries and they'd refund the $197. Sounds pretty shady to me. So....is it a scam? Damn right it is!!

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  71. Yes it is going to budget light forum and ask ask around they lie get you a great torch at unbelievable pricew

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  72. Yes is a scam please Doris go to budgetlight light forum .com and ask there the members will help out get a super light at a great price

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  73. Is anyone gonna point out the image they claim is a flashlight is a lightsaber

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    1. They are known for using other people's photos, videos and even music. I think many people automatically assume that an advertisement has to have any truth to it. Say whatever you want, collect the money and depend on a toothless FTC to give them a slap on the wrist to their shell company, at most.

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  74. Don't forget theu were posting my friend the owner of adventure sports video of light paper on fire and van mahlen video lighting up the whole side of a house with a meteor 243 ,i really cant stand them because theier own technical support know absolutely nothing anout lights ,i asked what kind of drivers did it use and tbey didn't know what i was talking about and they said they had no driver attachments and when I asked them which emitter they light used because on are under specifications it say it uses their own network desing xpe emitter than further down it used a xmlt6 and the tech representative just read off the sheet and I asked well which emiters is it they couldn't give me a straight answer and they said they wod get back to me.Iam still waiting afyer 3 months with no answer I later emailed about warranty and you have to pay for their warranty that's Bs .I just sent 2nlight to olight in Georgia and they said they would repair them with out even seeing a reciepts free if charge along with nite core,yes I had to send it to China but they replaced the driver for free no questions asked and these are far superior light compared to these crappy lights and I paid nothing additional for 5 year manufacturer warranty like shadow puke wants

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    1. I don't have the highest opinion of Olight, but at least they are a legitimate company with real products and not just some two dollar flashlight they markup as some super-secret military technology. I've known people in the military who carry high end Olight products.

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  75. X800 special 75% off for 5!! That's $45 each!!! Or even better get 10,15 or 20!! And get a special bulk price equaling $51 each!!! Lol. Or better still just give me your CC details and I'll work out a super special deal for you!!

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  76. Thank you!!! You have no idea how many times I've considered purchasing one of these for myself (& being in a wheelchair, having a tactical gear product that can help give me the upper hand in "hand-2-hand" close quarters is MUST!) So seeing your review saved me a lot of time, hassle and much needed b.s.!!!

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  77. Iam glad for you Cindi,have you thought about jujutsu,or Bujikan martial arts?They have ton of wrist,hand finger locks that would help .

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    2. Before I was disabled, I actually took tae kwon do & a class on Iiado. Thankfully they came in quite handy several months ago Rudy, because several guys made the mistake of trying to take my backpack off of my wheelchair! Unfortunate for them, I keep a baton underneath my seat & when it came to "blows" the only person left standing when the police arrived was me!!! I'm also thankful that my MS didn't take away me remembering all my training either. It was like second nature ( which usually having MS, your memory is not the best thing you can rely on. ) But, thankfully I still feel secure knowing now that I'm still able to hold my own if ever someone crosses my path and tries to do me harm in the future.

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  78. Guys i have the secret to end all this scam. This company is shady as heck. I was told by a good friend at the Attorney Generals office to mention that i was going to file a complaint with the AG and they will automatically refund my money. I did this and guess what? No words asked i got my 145.00 back and they didn't even ask me to return the flashlights. I had six of my buddies do it and they all got their money back no questions asked. So call back and do it guys. You deserve your money back.

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  79. Guys i have the secret to end all this scam. This company is shady as heck. I was told by a good friend at the Attorney Generals office to mention that i was going to file a complaint with the AG and they will automatically refund my money. I did this and guess what? No words asked i got my 145.00 back and they didn't even ask me to return the flashlights. I had six of my buddies do it and they all got their money back no questions asked. So call back and do it guys. You deserve your money back.

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  80. I just wish The A G would expose them publicly,

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  81. I just wish The A G would expose them publicly,

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  82. Thanks for the update. I almost got scammed but your post saved me

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  83. Mark, just came across this article. When I checked my balance this morning, I had been charged $145 by these goons. Never been to their site, given them information or anything. I've had to cancel my debit card & will be filing fraud papers if the charge posts to my account. I've contacted their customer service but received no response. I've reported them to the BBB. They're scum. They need to be prosecuted. It's outrageous a company can do this & get away with it.

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  84. Much appreciate your article here. It opened a new world to me as you introduce more established brand, and I had since purchased some tactical flashlight from Fenix, Nitecore, Convoy and Klarus. Big thanks !!!

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  85. Almost boughtthe M800 then though I'd Google it. Stumbled on your blog and I am very grateful I did. Keep up the good work.

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  86. @Mark Wing



    https://youtu.be/-JVqRy0sWWY

    This is where they are getting their website pictures!!!!

    Please see that this is someone else ALTOGETHER who built this unit completely on his OWN!!! This "So called company" is ripping off this man's video, pictures and claiming them to be their own!
    Once one website is closed down by the BBB (Better Business Bureau) or people such you, they go and create another website under another false name OR use a different URL to try and unload the thousands of pieces of junk flashlights to unknowing customers.

    What NEEDS to happen is to have MORE OUTSTANDING people like you to stop these people from:

    #1 Allowing more false websites from appearing
    #2 Alerting the public to these scams
    #3 Ways to protect themselves if they've already purchased said items
    #4 Credit/Debit Protection. How can they protect themselves from being over-changed & what repercussions can be taken against said companies.

    Maybe if enough people joined together and filed a class action lawsuit against the person/people who are selling these items. Maybe THEN they'd stop trying to fleece hard working Americans by selling these "so called" tactical gear flashlights at discount prices. Everyone loves a good discount, especially in today's economy. But to sell something that is obvious junk.... Someone should put an end to it!

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    1. The FTC could take down scammers like these in about 10 minutes if they wanted to. It's not like these people are hard to find. Almost everything about their ads is misleading, patently false or plagiarized from legitimate reviewers.

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    2. I was thinking of buying one of these in the UK, then I stumbled upon this very informative post.
      You my man saved me a whole lot of money.
      Thank you 👍
      Ps. I shared it on Facebook.

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  87. From Australia Down Under - Thanks for the information. lucky I done my research online before parting with my money.

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  88. thanks for the info, nearly bought three of them. Keep up the good work.

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  89. Now I just saw an ad where the flashlight can start a fire by shining the flashlight at a roll of newspaper. Trutorch...get it...tru 'torch'. Although in places other than the US, people call a flashlight a torch. And not because it has a flame at the end that can start fires. I mean really, can you imagine the liability for something like that! Five year olds starting fires everywhere. Get a brain people!

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  90. Believe or not there are some lights out there that generate enough heat to start a fire ,but they cost quite a bit at least 200.00+ so I doubt anyone would lend a 5 year old a light that expensive,but I can guarantee you that the Shadowhawk is no where near this in performance ,it's just more of their crappy false advertising.

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  91. Oh, I know there are. But as you said, no way will these cheap things be that hot. In the ad, it ignites the paper in about five seconds (hot for any handheld flashlight). Also, the flashlight they show igniting the paper is about a ten inch flashlight. Lol

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  92. oh and FWIW those magic beans aren't what they're cracked up to be. Fools and their money... I'm just amazed anyone that moronic would have the cash left to buy it :D

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  93. I was so impressed with the ad that I researched to find the manufactor in China. I got samples to test and find it impressive. Quality is acceptable but not outstanding. The cost of a bare unit is under $5. The light with the plastic junk case, a good nylon carrying case, charger and 2 lipo batteries could be sold for $40 and would be good value. I feel the shadow hawk is a decent flashlight, far better than the company!

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  94. I was so impressed with the ad that I researched to find the manufactor in China. I got samples to test and find it impressive. Quality is acceptable but not outstanding. The cost of a bare unit is under $5. The light with the plastic junk case, a good nylon carrying case, charger and 2 lipo batteries could be sold for $40 and would be good value. I feel the shadow hawk is a decent flashlight, far better than the company!

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  95. I'm based in the UK and these were all over Facebook this morning. Thanks for the warnings.

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  96. Many Thanks Mark Wing . The internet need more people like you. You save me money and an embarrassing day at work with the guys.

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  97. Are the Shadowhawk and Falcoln Tactical flashlights the same thing?

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  98. Thanks for this review. Was SO close to ordering several of these torches...but thankfully didn't!
    Will certainly be more careful in future!

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  99. I was scammed in an unbelievable way by these SOB! I visited the the shadowhawk flashlight website without doing research, and thought about buying one just to see if they were any good. When I click into the page with the actual information such as price etc. a new window opened (this has a meaning). It's also their order form, I suppose to rush you into buying. It started to seem really sketchy as I was filling out my info. I had filed it out, but hadn't clicked anything, so I googled them and saw all the people that has been scammed. I went back and tried to back out, but they purposely disable your ability from backing out so I closed the window. Over a month later my credit card bill gets charged over $100 and they somehow have all my info. Have been fighting it with my credit card company ever since. I don't know how it was possible.
    DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU.

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  100. Glad you found out what most flashaholics know the lights from shadow hawk are pitifully low bottom end xre emitters the Chinese one you got probably have a xml t6 or xml2

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  101. Glad you found out what most flashaholics know the lights from shadow hawk are pitifully low bottom end xre emitters the Chinese one you got probably have a xml t6 or xml2

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  103. I don't like to delete comments, but I deleted that one, which was obviously some kind of weird advertisement.

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  104. We ordered flashlight from here the 11/01 but still hasn't got any yet (PURCHASE AUTHORIZED ON 11/01 SHADOWHAWK FLASHLI 866-342-2144 CA ) And now I reading reviews around on the net all kind of garbage about these lights and sellers I wish I read it before I ordered any lights at all.. :( Sounds like that I never going to see any flash lights or money again
    Glenn
    What is the customer service number!?? I never got any phone number to them, by now I want to cancel my "buy"..

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  105. Many thanks for your work!

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  106. The new product name is now TruTorch. Blog, "community", etc. all created.

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  107. Yo adquiri la "promocion"que decia $29 USD y un cargador que ellos me sugirieron adquirir,ya que las pilas alcalinas dura 2 horas,segun ellos.-al pagar me sacaron $145 USD mas 90 USD.-el trato lo relice el 04 de Noviembre de 2016 y nada me ha llegado aún.-CREO QUE ME GARCARON ESTOS HIJOS DE PUTA Y NO SE A QUIEN QUEJARME!!!!!!!!

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