Saturday, February 20, 2016

Flashlight Scam: T2000 Tactical Flashlight

My articles exposing this scam and the threads on Budget Light Forum must be having an effect, because this scam is mutating faster than the Ebola virus. I've covered this scam in great detail, even though it seems like a losing battle.

The gist of the T2000 Tactical Flashlight scam is the same as the others: Sell you a $6 flashlight for $75 by convincing people --usually older, non-technically-savvy people-- that this is an incredible breakthrough in technology that you're getting for a steal.

Whether it goes by the Lightstrike 360, Shadowhawk X800, G700 or others, you can be sure the same two sock puppet twitter posts will be calling it the "brightest flashlight ever." Funny how the same twitter post applies to half a dozen brands!

The T2000 scam looks to be a slightly different version of the cheap Chinese flashlight they are normally pushing. Both are decent flashlights given their cheap prices.

The ad normally starts with a claim that it's the brightest ever, or used by the military, or it can blind a bear, or some other ridiculous claim. But they all follow a common theme.


If you click on the ad, enter the same two sock puppets! You can find Marky Johns on virtually every single one of these scam pages, with his "no big deal" post.


Wait, which product did you get?


The "review" page you get from clicking on the ad make ridiculous claims, like

"The T2000 Tactical Flashlight is currently the most popular tactical flashlight of choice for most Americans due to it's powerfully disorienting "strobe mode" that allows the user to flash a blinding strobe light into the attackers eyes, leaving them "disoriented beyond belief."
Wait, but I thought it was the other version that was the most popular. Oops. They mostly copy and paste the claims, though they change it just enough to try to fool Google into thinking it's unique content.

The "review" then gives it 5 stars, before you scroll to the bottom and see:

THIS IS AN ADVERTORIAL AND NOT AN ACTUAL NEWS ARTICLE, BLOG, OR CONSUMER PROTECTION UPDATE
There are so many versions of this same scam, it's getting hard to keep track of them. But I'm all in now. Otherwise it'll keep mutating into something much harder to identify as a scam. My blog makes pennies and these guys probably make millions, so it's almost a losing battle staying on top of it.

I've put together a guide for understanding LED flashlights which might be helpful to understanding the complex world of LED flashlights, written by me, a "flashaholic."

75 comments:

  1. I saw a "story" for the T2000 tactical flashlight at the bottom of a website, and it was the ad, like you mentioned. I know better, and immediately checked Amazon for the T2000. Found a bunch of similar lights. I decided to click on the "check availability" button at the bottom of the ad, and it redirected me to a page saying I had 14hours, 44minutes, and some seconds to get a 75% off coupon. I clicked on that, and it took me to an ordering page, where it recommended I get 3 T2000's for $120 dollars! That was the "best" value! They had other choices for 1,2, even 10 T2000's for a "discounted" price. So obvious it's a scam. Definitely staying away!

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    1. It would almost be funny if it wasn't sad, since the ultra-frugal can get these flashlights $5-$7 all day long. And the scam is mutating to avoid posts like this one.

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    2. I happen to be a fireman and know that this Is Not our light of choice. If you want a good light LED is nice. Also I prefer name brands I know will last. For the price they are asking I could buy a very nice light that is rechargeable. Now that is wize.

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    3. Indeed. As someone in the field I will take a streammate any day. I've never heard of any of my colleagues using anything else.

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  2. I literally did exactly what nebula did, except when I couldn't find the flashlight on amazon, the first thing I did was open a search and looked up "t2000 tactical flashlight scam" and that's how I found this blog. thanks mark.

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  3. Damn I got the same type advert and thought man nice flashlights and then they said it's a $200.00 light, well me being me and the only plus $20.00 flashlight I will by is either by Streamlight or Surefire because they are great lights but I was curious and wanted to make sure it wasn't a scam and bingo I found your blog, I'm a flashlight SUPERGEEK, meaning I love cool flashlights so if that had been a quality light on might had bought it if after I researched it and found it was a good light... Its amazing my how companies try to rip us all off these days, I mean what is happening nowadays? I especially love my really nice weapon light systems on my assault rifles but most lights won't stand up and to the recoil, so they aren't worth spit, anyway glad I did my normal due dilligence before spending the money, if it had been a legitimately good light I would have bought a couple for the home and auto, I hate buying garbage and this light seems like it would be exactly that, garbage so thanks for bringing this to light you saved me money

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  4. I am much licking this light as it being very bright with many SKU simultaneous purchase bargain pricing! If you are holding many hight quality lights in each hand, you will be seeing in darkness for many minutes at a far distance. The $6 lights as described will not often offer discount from full price, making this flashlight handheld appear more attraciving. Thank you and come again, to the T2000 lighting scheme.

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    1. i think that says it all right there. "all your base are belong to us", too.

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    2. Cut the Nigerian Prince some slack, English is his second language.

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    3. So this "anonymous" must be part of the scam? You would think scammers would get somebody that could talk and or speak English better LOL

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  5. I got scammed! I ordered the 3 t2000 flashlights for $120, then they get you with needing the batteries and chargers for another 48 bucks or something....Well, the flashlights came and the chargers and batteries never did. There is no way to even find or contact these guys...website is empty when I try to enter and only a P.O. box from Salt Lake City on the partial order that did arrive. I will definitely not be so naive in the future. I'm so glad I found this blog to bring things into perspective.......And the "anonymous" person who posted gibberish, is obviously one of the jerk involved in the scam.

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    1. I just got off the phone with customer service at 877-620-8999 and they cancelled my order for me. Or you can go to support @tacticalt2000.com. I am sure they will straighten this out for you. Carole

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    2. I believe anonymous's posting is satire.

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    3. It ducks that you got scammed but try thinking of it this way. You received a very valuable lesson for your money, Perhaps it saves you from making a mistake that cost you thousands in the future. BTW, the ad that brought me here is offering the t2000 for 19.99 with free shipping and free batteries &charger.

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  6. How would I go about cancelling this order? The same thing that everyone else is experiencing happened to me.

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  7. The timer resets every time you enter the limited time order page to 14:32:11, lol, what a crock!

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  8. I knew it was a scam when I couldn't find a brand, just a bunch of ads.

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  9. Thanks for the heads up Mark!
    Checked out the brand like so many others and found this page. Nice one.

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  10. This product was reviewed @ Expedition Portal which suggested a great product and heavily discounted. I went to their website and had the exact same experience as Nebula. I tried to order one, but when I got the order confirmation, I was being billed for $185.00
    Order information:
    1 x T2000 Flashlights $37.00

    Total Price: $185.00
    Shipping: FREE
    Tax: $0

    I called them up to find out what was going on and they claimed that I had ordered 5. They also stated that my order had already shipped, so they charged my credit card for the full $185.

    THIS IS A SCAM. STAY AWAY!! I spoke to their representative so I could return the items, requesting an RMA# and an address to ship them to or an RMA return mailing label. So far they have not responded to this.

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    1. I have seen alot of these scams before. I actually saw the ad on the military times website. I got the free flashlight, and waterproof firestarter for like $5, and received it about a week later. Surprisingly the flashlight is pretty good quality, and it has multiple light modes that arent explained. If you lightly touch the button on the back, it will scrtoll through, stobe, SOS, slow flash, and then 3 dimming modes. The only catch I saw was that you automatically get signed up for a "tactical membership" at $19.99 a month. As long as you cancel within 30 days, you should be fine. All in all I've spent more money on less. Just my opinion

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    2. I have seen alot of these scams before. I actually saw the ad on the military times website. I got the free flashlight, and waterproof firestarter for like $5, and received it about a week later. Surprisingly the flashlight is pretty good quality, and it has multiple light modes that arent explained. If you lightly touch the button on the back, it will scrtoll through, stobe, SOS, slow flash, and then 3 dimming modes. The only catch I saw was that you automatically get signed up for a "tactical membership" at $19.99 a month. As long as you cancel within 30 days, you should be fine. All in all I've spent more money on less. Just my opinion

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    3. all you need to do is call your credit card company and let them handle it. they are very good about these things. most people don't realize their card company will fight for them after all most of them guarantee your purchases.

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    4. That's true they'll cancel the charge & the scam companies don't dispute it.

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  11. Great information form the blog, thank you for sharing your experience. Are there original Tactical T2000 Flashlights out in the market? if so, where can I buy?

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  12. Okay Mark I don't understand. You say that the T2000 is a scam however it is advertised on your blog and at the top of your web page! Why would you label something a scam and then put your name on it by running the advertisement here on the blog and on the top of your homepage? Not cool

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    1. I have to go into Google every day and tell it not to put those ads on my site. If I'm sick a day or miss some, then the scam ads appear on my site. I could take ads completely off but the very small amount of money this blog makes comes from ads, and then I wouldn't be able to maintain the blog.

      So I have to wade through all these shady adds and tell Google not to put them on my site. The problem is that the shady assholes who make these ads put out new versions every day to try to get around sites like mine that are trying to block them.

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    2. Mark, none of the information is accurate that is presented on this page. I suggest you delete this particular page or you can hear from lawyers about your blog's slander. Up to you.

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    3. Have you ever heard of the Streisand Effect? From Wikipedia:

      "The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet."

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    4. take a look at the product offering. or any sort of websites associated with the t2000. you won't find fake social media comments anywhere or any $75 dollar price points, in fact you can get them for $9.99 with absolutely no catch. everything about your blog post is false. and before you take your holier than thou position of anointing something as a "scam" maybe you should start a business and learn operating costs that exist. Do these "cheap" flashlights not come with boxing and fulfillment and postage costs? is there not processing merchant fee's from banks, is there not customer service agents to pay? is there not advertising costs associated with launching products, up front costs for having a full product portfolio ready to ship the same day? website, hosting costs etc? I could go on, but you are an obvious simpleton and probably can't even operate his own finances. good luck with your dull blog. you'll hear from us soon.

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    5. Hmmm nothing says "I'm in the right" like vague legal threats in the comment section of a blog post by an anonymous account. You win at the Internet, anonymous sir. It reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite blogs:

      "Vagueness in legal threats is the hallmark of meritless thuggery" ~ Ken White

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    6. He doesn't control the ads that are served up to you, Google does. Google figures out what ads to show you based on what you've been looking at.

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    7. It's a losing battle, but I probably spend 10 hours a week just blocking those ads one by one. But unfortunately they put out new ads sometimes faster than I can block them.

      I wrote a new article explaining some of this:

      http://www.theoutdoornerd.com/2016/08/fighting-flashlight-scammers-with.html

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    8. Those vague legal threats are making your "dull blog" a lot more exciting!
      Keep up the good work. I've seen the same ad so many times, with different product names I decided to search for it, this time it's the TC1200. www.reviewopedia.com/tc1200-tactical-flashlight-reviews has 4 horrible reviews and 1 glowing "it saved my husband's life" review. I wonder which ones are real and which one is fake. :)
      ... and how cowardly is that "meritless thuggery" when it chooses to remain Anonymous.

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    9. MARK STICK TO YOUR GUNS!! Just right now I happened to find your blog. Tonight I discovered that last month and this month they changed me 19.99 for ??? I can assure you I have an attorney and my name is Aaron L Mitchell and I hope you keep up the good fight!! Sorry bastards!

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  13. Don't forget the ad also claims that this flashlight is used by practically every Navy SEAL. What a scam people like this make me sick

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  14. Oh, it gets better. I was on a web page, and there were two ads one for a T2000, and one for a TC1200 with the exact same picture and exact same claim. This scam is so obvious it's laughable!

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  15. Is the torch from wicked lasers a scam like this one???

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  16. Dad got suckered by Amazon, cost almost 200 for 3 lights and rechargable batteries and chargers.

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  17. I found the T2000 on a portal site offering the units for free, plus shipping and handling ($9.95). There were three packages available...one, three, and five units. I ordered one, went through the opt out pages (four in all)for accessories and a recurring charge program (for what, I have no idea). I checked out and when I received the order confirmation, the quantity showed up as (1) group of (3) units for $27.99 instead of quantity (1) GROUP OF (1)...and my credit card had been charged already! Needless to say, I was not a happy camper and cancelled the order. Let's see how long it takes to process the refund.

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    1. Ad said FREE today only. Plus shipping and handling. Ordered but no oportunity to OK final charge. Then email: Thank you for your order $27.99 charged C to your credit card. Cancelled for refund today. Notified Florida State Attorney General of this apparent fraudulent advertisement.

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    2. Pretty much everything about the T2000 is deceptive. I'm still waiting for their anonymous legal threats to materialize.

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  18. Just saw this after I had ordered one was the same as the one above 9.99 for shipping Anna free T1000. So far I have a order exactly what I ordered one flashlight for $0 999 for shipping $0 for membership. My card has been charged $9.99. We will see what happens if it's only A6 dollar flashlight at least I didn't lose too much. I am a gimmick nut so if this is all it is I will probably like it anyway. Will let you know what happens KP

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  19. Keep up the good work. Saved me lots of money! Whenever it sounds to good to be true, I always look it up. Glad I found you. Thanks. These idiots ought to be closed down!

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  20. I was supposed to get the flashlight for $9.99. Not only have I yet to receive it, they charged my card another $19.99.

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  22. I was just on http://www.nbcnews.com/ and saw what looked like a legitimate story about this flashlight (T2000) on their site saying that you could claim yours for "free" so I was like 'shit, why not at least check it out'. I put in my decoy email, false name, and neighbor's address and it ended up redirecting me to a page saying that they just needed me to pay 9.99$ for Shipping & Handling xD It's so fake, I hope nobody actually falls for it .-.

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    1. Thanks for telling me what they wanted for S&H. I knew it was a scam, but their skilled marketing still piqued my interest.

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  23. Hey I just got scammed by the t-2000 free flashlight scam ...... I called my credit card company and they said they couldn't cancel it because it's a debit charge !!! I can't call the company for a refund because they are only open from 8-5 on Monday - Friday in Florida the # is 877 620-8999 What a SCAM !!!

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  24. This thing is a joke and if there is anything learned from this experience is to Google before I buy a light again.

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  25. Thanks. The add I found was for "Free" flashlight. "Just pay S&H." No idea how much S&H cost since it wanted all my info before telling me. Not gonna happen. I was googling that up when I came across your blog. Anyway, thanks again, and keep fighting the good fight!

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  26. I found similar products at Lowes and Home Depot that have higher lumens(1000 and 1300) for less than what T2000 Headlamp is selling for - go figure.

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  27. I am a young adult and I can still prove right off the bat, that these ads are fake and they just scam. Who do they think they're fooling? XD

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  28. A wise consumer should do their homework first, instead of blindly buying a product just from a click-bait advert on a website, even if it is geared toward your interest.

    I own many lights from many reputable manufacturers, and carry many daily. I know the quality build and customer support for their product, and the technology that makes these lights work properly and ruggedly under heavy use.

    If an ad makes wild claims of a small pocket light that can magically pump out 1000 lumens from a small battery or bank is selling you a seriously overinflated price for a potentially dangerous and frail product.

    Do your homework, dig in deep, and research before you buy anything -- anything marketed as "tactical" is just a catch phrase to lure you into a trap to empty your wallet, nothing more.

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  29. T H A N K Y O U !!!!!
    KEEP STOMPING ON THESE BASTARDS... Your doing a great service.

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  30. Can someone plz tell me how to go about cancelling the order my pops ordered? He got the 3 lights n just pay S&H...then u have to cancel unless u wanna be in "VIP" club lol...well he got the 3 lights, charged $49.99 I think but I wanna return them, get my refund/money back ASAP!! Plz help thank u

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  31. Can someone plz tell me how to go about cancelling the order my pops ordered? He got the 3 lights n just pay S&H...then u have to cancel unless u wanna be in "VIP" club lol...well he got the 3 lights, charged $49.99 I think but I wanna return them, get my refund/money back ASAP!! Plz help thank u

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  32. Did the exact same thing as Nate79:Thanks. The add I found was for "Free" flashlight. "Just pay S&H." No idea how much S&H cost since it wanted all my info before telling me. Not gonna happen. I was googling that up when I came across your blog. Anyway, thanks again, and keep fighting the good fight! Red flags should be flying all around your head when you see "FREE" in an ad - its never free!

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  33. Don't buy anything that comes out of Florida. Everything I get involved with coming out of Florida is a scam. I just don't know why.

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  34. Don't buy anything that comes out of Florida. Everything I get involved with coming out of Florida is a scam. I just don't know why.

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  35. We really need to put a Stop to this, SCAM!!!!!! These people are Crooks! Check out my note. Share, Share, Share...https://www.facebook.com/notes/allen-crowe/psa-consumer-report-t2000-tactical-headlamp-fraud-these-crooks-need-to-be-stoppe/10210726049250111

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  36. Ordered a Military Grade HyBeam Tactical - 300 Lumen Ultra Bright, LED 3 Mode Flashlight from a ad seen on TV Oct 24 / 2016 https://www.tacticalarmory.net/products/2-hybeam-tactical-pro-300-lumen-ultra-bright-led-3-mode-flashlight.
    Is this the same as i see mentioned on theis form ?
    I have been waiting for mine to show up.
    confirmation email says tracking info but there is no link.
    i have sent a email (1-888-222-3938
    (Phone Temporarily unavailable)
    sounds as if i should contact my card company

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  37. mailto:info@t2000store.com
    Sent this 10/18/16
    Well...first off, I read the Terms and Conditions of your Website, (After, I checked you guys out, on the Internet.) and I must say, I was Not A Very Happy Camper. I want Out, of this Membership, ASAP! 2nd. thing is...The Headlamps, you sent me, are Nothing...like the one in the video. Plastic, Trash, that's what they are. You need to send me a Return Shipping Label, so I can return these, Generic Damn things Back, to you and I am Not, paying to send them Back. Also...I want the money put back, in my Bank Account, and Do...Not, try to take money out of my Bank Account, Ever...or I will just change Everything, in my account. I really Hope, this Email Does the Trick, if Not, I'll do whatever I have to, to get Satisfaction. I must say...you guys have Quite, the Racket. Oh yeah...I will let my bank know, if you guy take money from my account, It Is Not, Authorized, by Me. I do believe...all I have to do, is Forward this E-mail to My Bank, and it will hold up, in Any...Court, in the Land! So...let's Not waste Time, I would really Hate, to Blast you on the Internet, although...Many, Already have, from what I've seen. (Oh yeah, the so called Membership, is about 20.00 a month taken out of your bank account, Automatically!) Part of the Terms and Conditions of using their web site.

    Then...I sent this, to Chase bank, just a few minutes later. lol.
    I figured I would forward this E-mail to you guys, to let you know all about this situation, ahead of time. These guys are Crooks...and I am Not, the only one, they have nailed. I found out, that it is a Major...Internet Scam, and I've called them on it. If they Do Not, Cancel my so called, Membership, they are Not, to take a Dime...out of my account, they are Not, Authorized...to do so. If I am sending this, to the wrong department, I apologize, and need to know just exactly who...to send it to.
    Thank you for your time.

    Sent this 10/25/16
    So...still no refund? Did you not, get my last E-mail? CANCEL....MY SO CALLED...MEMBERSHIP, ASAP! I WANT A REFUND NOW....YOU GUYS ARE CROOKS!!! Those So called 3 FREE...T2000 Headlamp, that I ordered, "Just Pay Shipping" (by the way, that was a JOKE!) were Garbage! Nothing like the video described at all! I need some kind of Reply from you guys. Don't Ignore Me, I'm Pissed Off, enough, as it is...I promise, If I don't receive Total Satisfaction and I mean, Soon...I Swear...I'll Blast you guys little SCAM ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!!!

    POS DEBIT T2000 STORE ORLANDO FL –$10.00


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    1. I ordered a light understanding to pay shipping. I got the light and some other plastic ones I never ordered. I called bank.The bank credited me for 3 mos of membership fees I didn't know about because my balance in that acct is always low. I have'nt called the 877 # and won't. Just call your bank. I also ordered new debit card.

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  38. Sent 11/04/16
    I contacted you guys Way...before the 15 Days, were up, to CANCEL....MY SO CALLED...VIP, MEMBERSHIP! Still...you took money out of my Bank Account. WTH??? Those So called 3 FREE...T2000 Headlamp, that I ordered, "Just Pay Shipping" (by the way, that was a JOKE!) were Garbage! Nothing like the video described at all! How many more times, do I have to contact you, in order to get this issue resolved? Do NOT, take one more Freakin Dime, out of my account!! Yours is Not the first Scam...I've had to deal with, and just to let you know...I won't Stop, until I get Satisfaction, to the max!

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  39. Definitely a scam, my whole family including myself are military, in almost all of the branches, surprisingly the coast guard uses one of the most powerful flashlights and actually cost less than these flashlights, where these are saying they are 50-100 dollars, I can't remember the brand name of the personal light that the coast guard uses but I do know it is only $35 and comes with 2 rechargeable batteries that last 22 hours each, I myself have three flashlights that I love, 1. My snap on light that is super bright and the battery lasts roughly 14 hours on full brightness, 2. My maglight with an upgraded battery pack and led upgrade, 3. Surprisingly a cheap $10 headlamp that I picked up at my local hardware store (energized brand) it has red green blue and bright white, all of these were cheaper than this and I guarantee they are brighter,

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  40. I just saw a 19.99 charge on my card so I called to find out what is was for. They said I signed up for a monthly VIP. I cancled that and got a comformation number. I hope I don't have to call again next month and do the same thing. They said they would return my money in 2 0r 3 days, we'll see about that also.

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